Life is full of hurts and betrayals, especially when you are involved in ministry. Talk to any pastor who has been in ministry long enough and you will discover that they probably have the scars to show for it. My guest today is no exception. Scott Distler is the author of "The Cave: When Ministry Becomes Misery". Scott, shares about his time in the cave of shadows, and how he got out. Join me as I try on Scott's 8 1/2 Merrell shoes.